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Re: Hello from America !

Ungelesener Beitragvon berlintourist » Samstag 8. September 2018, 03:44

man könnte ja auch mal über den teich fliegen - ne unterhose und die zahnbürste sind schnell eingepackt.... :lol:

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Re: Hello from America !

Ungelesener Beitragvon Kerry Chadderton » Montag 10. September 2018, 23:59

I'll be installing the engine tomorrow. I have a few questions:

What is the clutch pressure plate to flywheel bolt torque?

What are the engine to transmission bolt torque values?

Can you guide me to the proper way to set, or adjust, the shifter (circuit)?

Thanks in advance. -Kerry

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Re: Hello from America !

Ungelesener Beitragvon Warre 1000 » Dienstag 11. September 2018, 21:14

The clutch screw shall have a torque of 21,6 Nm or 2,2 kpm.
The motor-gear box screws shall have a torque of 44,1 Nm or 4,5 kpm.
I did not found the torque for the starter motor, but those are even bigger screws than the motor-gearbox screws.

Nm stands for Newtonmeter and Kpm for kilogrammeter. What that are in poundfoot or poundinches I do not know.

In fact I attach those screws with only a good feeling for those type of screws.
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Re: Hello from America !

Ungelesener Beitragvon Tomtom » Dienstag 11. September 2018, 21:34

I did not found the torque for the starter motor, but those are even bigger screws than the motor-gearbox screws.

=4.6kpm
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Re: Hello from America !

Ungelesener Beitragvon Kerry Chadderton » Dienstag 11. September 2018, 22:31

Thanks guys!

My torque wrench covers all forms of measure so the conversion is not necessary. I agree Warre, sometimes I go by the "experience torque wrench" :lol: The screws that most concern me are the clutch screws.

Do you have any help for adjusting the gear shifter (circuit)? I have it adjusted based on what Wartburg Peter has suggested on his website. However it feels vague. All the parts are new and in good shape. I wonder if I have missed something?

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Re: Hello from America !

Ungelesener Beitragvon Warre 1000 » Freitag 14. September 2018, 20:55

Do the car have the gear level at the steering column or on the floor?
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Re: Hello from America !

Ungelesener Beitragvon Kerry Chadderton » Dienstag 18. September 2018, 01:18

The engine is back in and everything works well! I drove 120km over the weekend. It's very reliable and quite a conversation piece. It has some vibration at 100kph but that goes away at 120kph :smile:

I will post pictures of the clutch and disc. The VW 180mm "40hp" friction disc had to have 3.25mm taken off the length of the center hub to mate well with the transmission shaft.

Warre, The shifter is at the steering column. Every linkage from the firewall to the transmission is new, purchased from LDM by the owner. I have it adjusted fairly well. However 2nd gear is difficult to engage at speed. Every other gear is easily shifted. Every gear is selected easily at idle. I think that the 1st to 2nd shift plane needs to be adjusted a bit.

The LED tachometer no longer works now that I have everything together. I do not know why. I re-checked all of my connections. I'm missing something.

-Kerry

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Re: Hello from America !

Ungelesener Beitragvon MarkusH » Dienstag 18. September 2018, 20:37

Hi!

The LED tachometer no longer works now that I have everything together. I do not know why. I re-checked all of my connections. I'm missing something.

What do you mean? There is no tachometer, from stock. Was a tachometer additionally installed?
Or do you mean this one?
The curved LED-display on the left side shows the current fuel consumption.

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Re: Hello from America !

Ungelesener Beitragvon Warre 1000 » Dienstag 18. September 2018, 21:05

Kerry Chadderton hat geschrieben:.....The shifter is at the steering column. Every linkage from the firewall to the transmission is new, purchased from LDM by the owner. I have it adjusted fairly well. However 2nd gear is difficult to engage at speed. Every other gear is easily shifted. Every gear is selected easily at idle. I think that the 1st to 2nd shift plane needs to be adjusted a bit....


I might be you have figured the shifter adjustment out by yourself. But here how I adjust the shifter at the steering column.

The important thing is that the reverse should not be possible to engage by mistake. The shifter should be pulled out about 5 mm towards the passenger. Then it will be possible to pull the shifter towards the steering wheel one step more and engage the reverse gear. This can be adjusted at the last vertical joint to gear box shifter shaft (6mm thread with a 10 mm nut width). Appropriate adjustment is when the reverse gear cannot be engaged by mistake, but the 1 and 2 gear are easy to engage.

There is a small possibility that the reverse gear preventing system also might interfear, when changing from third to second gear. When changing from first gear to second gear there should not be any problem because the gear box are alredy connected to 1-2 gear shifter rod. You can try adjust the link a little bit shorter (or do I get it wrong and should it be a little longer?)

If parts falling out, when pulling the shifter towards the passenger one small fork has broken, and the adjustment becomes impossible, but the gear box is still manouverable. That have happened a few times at my Wartburg.

Nice that the clutch is working!
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Re: Hello from America !

Ungelesener Beitragvon Kerry Chadderton » Mittwoch 19. September 2018, 01:06

MarkusH,

Thank you! I was completely mistaken. It makes sense now. I thought it was the strangest tachometer I had ever seen! I switched the ground wire when reassembling. The schematics you have provided are priceless. I need the wiring diagram to fix the fuel gauge as well. What does the 3 position switch below this gauge do?

Warre1000,

You might have it figured out. The 1st to 2nd shift does feel like it is passing through the reverse lockout. I'll try minor adjustments.

Thanks my friends!

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Re: Hello from America !

Ungelesener Beitragvon MarkusH » Mittwoch 19. September 2018, 09:23

What does the 3 position switch below this gauge do?


left position
partial switch off the gauge. Then only the red LEDs of temperature and fuel level will light on, if the motor run hot or fuel comes to end.

mid position
normal function

right position
test of "brake fluid low level warning lamp"

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Re: Hello from America !

Ungelesener Beitragvon MarkusH » Mittwoch 19. September 2018, 12:35

in left switch position:
Imho also the last 4 LEDs of the consumption gauge will light on, if you give full throttle.
I have another gauge, so by that I have to rely to the wiring diagram.

have a look here:
http://wartburgpeter.de/te_kmva.htm


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